Lesson 3: VERBZ + CRAZY STUFF

[caitaro]

[10:49:14 PM] Kanoka x かのか: lesson 3: Basic verbs o3o
[10:49:54 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I Run
[10:49:57 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I Ran
[10:50:09 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I didnt Run
[10:50:29 PM] Kanoka x かのか: What is the difference between theses english sentences o3o
[10:50:46 PM] Cait Berry: Tense
[10:50:52 PM] Kanoka x かのか: :P
[10:50:55 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yep
[10:51:03 PM] Kanoka x かのか: you took spanish?
[10:51:14 PM] Cait Berry: Present/Past/Past
[10:51:15 PM] Cait Berry: Nope
[10:51:17 PM] Cait Berry: English only
[10:51:23 PM] Kanoka x かのか: dang xD
[10:51:30 PM] Kanoka x かのか: conjigation~
[10:51:48 PM] Kanoka x かのか: The editing of a word to make it a different
[10:51:55 PM] Kanoka x かのか: IE:
[10:52:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Talk = present
[10:52:07 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Talked = past
[10:52:13 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: わたしのなまえはRaymonfです。
[10:52:33 PM] Kanoka x かのか: @ Ray: yes. we know your name is raymonf xD
[10:52:41 PM] Cait Berry: ｘD
[10:52:47 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: oh so that was correct now?
[10:52:55 PM | Edited 10:53:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: first verb your learn today :3
[10:53:08 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Tabemasu
[10:53:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: This is a BASIC verb in japanese
[10:53:36 PM] Kanoka x かのか: how do you know? look for a "Masu"
[10:53:46 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: what does tabemasu mean?
[10:53:47 PM] Cait Berry: ます
[10:53:55 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべます？
[10:53:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Tabemasu = to eat
[10:53:58 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ooo
[10:54:13 PM] Kanoka x かのか: think of the "tabe" as the root of the verb
[10:54:14 PM] Cait Berry: Eat!
[10:54:17 PM] Cait Berry: TABLE
[10:54:20 PM | Edited 10:54:54 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: tabemasu a burger
[10:54:28 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Lets conjigate (cool)
[10:54:35 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Tabemasu = to eat
[10:54:41 PM | Removed 10:54:56 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: This message has been removed.
[10:54:41 PM | Removed 10:54:58 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: This message has been removed.
[10:54:47 PM] Kanoka x かのか: TabeMashita = Ate
[10:55:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Tabemasen = didn't eat
[10:55:15 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: um
[10:55:27 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Tabemasendeshita = didnt eat. (Past tense)
[10:55:33 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべませｎ？
[10:55:35 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: um
[10:55:38 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: is that supposed to be in kata?
[10:55:42 PM] Cait Berry: Ok so wait
[10:55:49 PM] Kanoka x かのか: did you see what changed from each tense? :3
[10:55:52 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべました
[10:55:53 PM] Cait Berry: Whats the difference betweenTabemasen and Tabemasendeshita?
[10:55:56 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべませｎ
[10:56:04 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: まべませんでした
[10:56:18 PM] Kanoka x かのか: one is present
[10:56:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: one is past
[10:56:27 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Like:
[10:56:27 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: but what about the n in the last part?
[10:56:30 PM] Cait Berry: Shouldnt it be "Wont eat"Then?
[10:56:37 PM] Cait Berry: Didnt = past too o.o？
[10:56:38 PM] Kanoka x かのか: x3
[10:56:45 PM] Kanoka x かのか: sure. xD
[10:57:00 PM] Kanoka x かのか: but you get the point right? :3
[10:57:10 PM] Cait Berry: Yep.
[10:57:19 PM] Kanoka x かのか: okey now for a NEW particle~
[10:57:19 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: かのか
[10:57:21 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: dang it
[10:57:22 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ime
[10:57:24 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: kanoka
[10:57:24 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: um
[10:57:29 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: why's there a n in the last part?
[10:57:32 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべませｎ
[10:57:39 PM] Kanoka x かのか: double press n
[10:57:44 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ohh
[10:57:46 PM] Kanoka x かのか: たべません
[10:57:55 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべません
[10:57:58 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ok thanks :)
[10:58:02 PM] Cait Berry: わたしたべませｎｎ
[10:58:03 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: n's are hard in japanese
[10:58:05 PM | Edited 10:58:08 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: and confusing
[10:58:07 PM] Cait Berry: Wut..
[10:58:21 PM] Cait Berry: たべませんでした
[10:58:23 PM] Cait Berry: ？
[10:58:26 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yep
[10:58:33 PM] Kanoka x かのか: back to the NEW particle
[10:58:35 PM | Edited 10:58:44 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: たべませんでした
[10:58:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its "O" the particle!
[10:59:02 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: oh, nice.
[10:59:09 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Its classifed under "W"
[10:59:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: but its ALWAYS pronouced O
[10:59:29 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: guys
[10:59:33 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: I need to sleep :\
[10:59:34 PM] Kanoka x かのか: try it: type wo
[10:59:38 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: を
[10:59:40 PM] Cait Berry: Hita =　Past
En =　Present
[10:59:42 PM] Kanoka x かのか: を
[11:00:02 PM | Edited 11:00:08 PM] Kanoka x かのか: add a s
[11:00:13 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: をｓ
[11:00:17 PM] Kanoka x かのか: You replaceing the whole masu o3o
[11:00:21 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ;-;
[11:00:34 PM] Ｒａｙｍｏｎｆ[１]: ok g'night or おはよう depending on where you live
[11:00:52 PM] Kanoka x かのか: ma su - ma se n - ma shi ta
[11:01:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: you'll under stand why later xD
[11:01:18 PM] Cait Berry: Night night Ray <3
[11:01:21 PM] Kanoka x かのか: cait still present?
[11:01:36 PM] Cait Berry: おやすみなさい
[11:01:43 PM] Cait Berry: Yup ^_^
[11:01:45 PM] Kanoka x かのか: ;D
[11:02:07 PM] Kanoka x かのか: this WO (pronouced O)
[11:02:12 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Is ONLY a particle
[11:02:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: dont use it to spell stuff :3
[11:02:31 PM] Kanoka x かのか: and when spelt in romanji, its just O
[11:02:38 PM | Edited 11:02:41 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (so watch out :D)
[11:02:43 PM] Cait Berry: [10:58:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its "O" the particle!
[10:59:09 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Its classifed under "W"
[10:59:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: but its ALWAYS pronouced O
[11:02:49 PM] Cait Berry: what do you mean by classified under”W"?
[11:02:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: uhhh
[11:03:00 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Ka ku ku ke ko
[11:03:07 PM] Kanoka x かのか: And classifed under K
[11:03:19 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Na ni nu ne no Are classifed under N
[11:03:44 PM] Cait Berry: Ok so "Wo"　Isnt related to the Tenses?　Or is it?
[11:03:57 PM] Kanoka x かのか: no relattion to tense :3
[11:04:05 PM] Kanoka x かのか: no for a proper sentence:
[11:04:16 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Neko o Tabemasu
[11:04:31 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I Eat cats (The I is implied in this case*)
[11:04:31 PM] Cait Berry: Cat is eating?
[11:04:33 PM] Cait Berry: Oh
[11:04:51 PM] Kanoka x かのか: or you can say:
[11:04:53 PM] Cait Berry: Watashi Neko o Tabemasu - so this is wrong?
[11:05:02 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Watashi wa neko o tabemasu
[11:05:09 PM] Cait Berry: Oh yes
[11:05:16 PM] Cait Berry: I　Am eating cats
[11:05:19 PM] Kanoka x かのか: most people skip out the "watashi wa"
[11:05:28 PM] Cait Berry: Ok
[11:05:37 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I'll go into this more later xD
[11:05:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: but for now:
[11:05:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: neko o tabemasu
[11:05:59 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I eat cats
[11:06:06 PM] Cait Berry: Imu o tabemasu?
[11:06:12 PM] Kanoka x かのか: to change the tense: modify the verb
[11:06:18 PM] Cait Berry: いむをたべます？
[11:06:28 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yep
[11:06:39 PM] Cait Berry: YAY！Bero will be so happy LOL
[11:06:45 PM] Kanoka x かのか: :P
[11:06:54 PM] Kanoka x かのか: so guess waht this is
[11:07:03 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Neko o tabemashita
[11:07:15 PM] Cait Berry: I Ate Cats
[11:07:27 PM] Kanoka x かのか: neko o tabemasen
[11:07:35 PM] Cait Berry: I Wont eat cats
[11:07:44 PM] Kanoka x かのか: good o3o
[11:07:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: new term:
[11:08:02 PM] Cait Berry: Ok so hold on
[11:08:20 PM] Cait Berry: What does "O"Really like, meAn
[11:08:26 PM] Cait Berry: ”Does the action"?
[11:08:37 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its just links subject to verb~
[11:08:46 PM] Kanoka x かのか: in english its invisable~
[11:09:10 PM] Cait Berry: So "Neko Tabemashita"　Is like ”Cat Ate"
[11:09:23 PM] Cait Berry: Instead of "Eat Cat"
[11:09:25 PM] Cait Berry: ？
[11:09:37 PM] Kanoka x かのか: well it would be two words
[11:09:42 PM] Kanoka x かのか: that arent linked together :3
[11:09:57 PM] Cait Berry: Ok. so it just helps you determine what you're referring to
[11:10:14 PM] Kanoka x かのか: new verb:
[11:10:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Miemasu = to see
[11:10:38 PM] Kanoka x かのか: let see if you can rewrite in passt and negative form :3
[11:10:56 PM] Cait Berry: Miemasu
[11:11:03 PM] Cait Berry: Miemashita = Saw
[11:11:15 PM] Cait Berry: Miemashen = WontSee
[11:11:27 PM] Cait Berry: Miemasendeshita = Didnt see
[11:11:31 PM] Cait Berry: ？
[11:11:49 PM] Kanoka x かのか: miemasen*
[11:11:59 PM] Cait Berry: Oh yes
[11:12:15 PM] Kanoka x かのか: now say: I saw a cat
[11:13:02 PM] Cait Berry: Watashi Wo Miemashita Neko?
[11:13:09 PM] Cait Berry: Not sure where to put that Wo
[11:13:31 PM] Cait Berry: Before or after　Miemashita o.o
[11:14:03 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its (watashi wa) neko Wo miemashita
[11:14:15 PM] Kanoka x かのか: the watashi wa is no required in this case~
[11:15:06 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its pretty much: (I) Cat Saw
[11:15:08 PM] Cait Berry: Wouldnt that be...
[11:15:24 PM] Cait Berry: Like saying "My cat" though with wa?
[11:15:35 PM] Kanoka x かのか: nopoe
[11:15:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: It just makes You the Person you performed the action
[11:16:22 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (The doer) wa (Victem) wo (Action)
[11:17:20 PM] Kanoka x かのか: just saying : Neko o miemashita is enough x,x
[11:17:39 PM] Cait Berry: Yeah
[11:17:51 PM] Cait Berry: So like saying "saw a cat"
[11:18:07 PM] Cait Berry: ”Didnt see a cat"
[11:18:12 PM] Cait Berry:
I mean
[11:18:22 PM] Cait Berry: Wait の
[11:18:23 PM] Kanoka x かのか: if you wanted to, this this case you can use a Ga instead of a wa
[11:18:25 PM] Cait Berry: No
[11:18:45 PM] Cait Berry: SAW A cat。Yeah
[11:18:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: watashi Ga Neko o miemashita
[11:19:23 PM] Cait Berry: Ga = ?
[11:19:25 PM] Kanoka x かのか: so: Anata ga neko o tabemashita
[11:19:31 PM] Kanoka x かのか: would be: You ate the cat
[11:20:18 PM] Kanoka x かのか: wa and Ga are Very simular
[11:20:31 PM] Kanoka x かのか: don't mind it too much x,x
[11:20:38 PM] Cait Berry: Okee :O
[11:20:44 PM] Kanoka x かのか: review:
[11:21:02 PM | Edited 11:21:08 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Say: My Cat's name is Doki
[11:21:49 PM] Cait Berry: Watashi no cat namae wa dokiz
[11:21:52 PM] Cait Berry: wa
[11:21:54 PM] Cait Berry: oops
[11:21:58 PM] Cait Berry: whats goin on here
[11:22:21 PM] Cait Berry: わたしのねこなまえわどき。
[11:22:35 PM] Kanoka x かのか: watashi no neko no namae wa doki DESU
[11:22:59 PM] Cait Berry: Ok cuz hte name belongs to the cat
[11:23:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: how is the "your cat" related to the noun "name" ? :3
[11:23:14 PM] Cait Berry: わたしのねこのなまえわどきです
[11:23:19 PM] Kanoka x かのか: dont forget the desu D:
[11:23:23 PM] Cait Berry: です
[11:23:30 PM] Kanoka x かのか: also
[11:23:33 PM] Cait Berry: ですですでせ
[11:23:33 PM] Cait Berry: ｘD
[11:23:34 PM] Kanoka x かのか: you used the wrong WA
[11:23:39 PM] Cait Berry: Oh poop.
[11:23:55 PM] Kanoka x かのか: ready for a mind fuck?
[11:23:55 PM] Cait Berry: わたしのねこのなまえはどきです。
[11:23:59 PM] Cait Berry: Mebbe
[11:24:29 PM] Kanoka x かのか: translate: Watashi "wa" Ken Desu.
[11:24:56 PM] Cait Berry: I am Ken
[11:25:03 PM] Cait Berry: O.O
[11:26:10 PM] Kanoka x かのか: skype crashed xD
[11:26:13 PM] Kanoka x かのか: And yes
[11:26:22 PM] Cait Berry: Oh WB
[11:26:27 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I am ken is correct~
[11:26:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: try to translate this:
[11:27:07 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Watashi "wa" ken Deshita
[11:27:32 PM] Cait Berry: I was Ken?
[11:27:33 PM] Kanoka x かのか: >:3
[11:27:36 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yesh
[11:27:39 PM] Cait Berry: Not sure what "de" is
[11:28:08 PM] Cait Berry: ok so like... Desu is like "A placeholder In case a verb is needed"
[11:28:17 PM] Cait Berry: Then its edited when you use the verb
[11:28:37 PM] Kanoka x かのか: now this: Watashi "wa" ken dewa arimasen
[11:29:10 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (yeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh (cool))
[11:29:14 PM] Cait Berry: Umm..
[11:29:24 PM] Cait Berry: Dewa ari = i dunno
[11:29:31 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I am not Ken
[11:29:42 PM] Cait Berry: D:
[11:29:53 PM] Kanoka x かのか: to break it down:
[11:29:56 PM] Cait Berry: Watashi wa Ken Deshita? it nor right？
[11:30:11 PM] Cait Berry: Or
[11:30:13 PM | Edited 11:30:16 PM] Kanoka x かのか: that is correct~
[11:30:42 PM] Cait Berry: Im right that its wrong?
[11:30:48 PM] Kanoka x かのか: uhhh
[11:30:53 PM] Kanoka x かのか: lemme break it down xD
[11:31:00 PM] Cait Berry: Or im right in that its still right? o-o
[11:31:04 PM] Kanoka x かのか: watashi wa ken desu
[11:31:51 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I (linking particle) Ken. Desu links the I to "Ken"
[11:32:11 PM] Kanoka x かのか: watashi wa ken deshita.
[11:32:43 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I (linking particle) Ken. Deshita linking I to "Ken". But in past tense
[11:33:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: watashi wa ken dewa arimasen.
[11:33:59 PM | Edited 11:34:34 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I (Linking particle) "Ken". The dewa arimasen Pretty much say: the noun doesnt not "EquaL" the other noun
[11:34:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: The in literal terms:
[11:34:57 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Watashi wa ken desu.
[11:35:19 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (My Self) is equal to "Ken"
[11:35:27 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I am ken
[11:35:33 PM] Cait Berry: Yeah. o.o
[11:35:46 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Watashi wa ken deshita
[11:36:01 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (My self) is equal to ken. (past tense)
[11:36:08 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I Was Ken
[11:36:25 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Watashi wa ken dewa arimasen.
[11:36:42 PM] Cait Berry: Wait
[11:36:46 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (Myself) Is NOT equal to ken.
[11:36:51 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I am NOT ken
[11:36:59 PM] Cait Berry: so Dewa arimasen is like "Didnt - Present"?
[11:37:09 PM] Cait Berry: Or wont.. wait
[11:37:20 PM] Cait Berry: So why isnt it Desen ?
[11:37:30 PM] Kanoka x かのか: because of grammer :3
[11:37:50 PM] Kanoka x かのか: I can't explain why phat is prounced fat in english xD
[11:38:03 PM] Cait Berry: :O
[11:38:20 PM] Kanoka x かのか: its becuse of rules of grammer set by some1 before us~
[11:38:31 PM] Cait Berry: So when do you use "Wa Arimasen" instead of "Sen"
[11:38:59 PM | Edited 11:39:13 PM] Kanoka x かのか: think of desu as "It is"
[11:39:46 PM] Kanoka x かのか: in cases where tou have to use DESU you uses conjigated as such o3o
[11:39:47 PM] Cait Berry: so Tabemawa Arimasen is not

Didnt eat?
[11:40:41 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yes techinically
[11:40:51 PM] Kanoka x かのか: you can conjigate basic verbs in TWO ways
[11:41:00 PM] Kanoka x かのか: tabemasu = to eat
[11:41:25 PM] Kanoka x かのか: tabemashita = ate
[11:41:32 PM] Kanoka x かのか: tabemasen = didnt eat
[11:41:52 PM] Kanoka x かのか: tabedewaarimasen = didnt eat too
[11:42:07 PM] Kanoka x かのか: most people don't use the longer version xD
[11:42:35 PM] Cait Berry: Ok, so spacing.. Tabedewa arimasen or Tabedewaarimasen?
[11:42:45 PM] Kanoka x かのか: in japanese
[11:42:48 PM] Kanoka x かのか: there is no space xD
[11:42:52 PM] Cait Berry: But i mean in romaji
[11:42:56 PM] Kanoka x かのか: yesh
[11:43:18 PM] Kanoka x かのか: be besides that~
[11:43:24 PM] Kanoka x かのか: use the shorter form xD
[11:43:48 PM] Kanoka x かのか: but for Desu, Dewa arimasen is required~
[11:44:12 PM] Kanoka x かのか: Ready for the last lesson of the daY? :D
[11:44:24 PM] Cait Berry: ok so Wa Arimasen is only used at the end of a sentence with desu?
[11:44:34 PM] Kanoka x かのか: dewa arimasen*
[11:44:41 PM] Kanoka x かのか: You replace the whole thing :3
[11:44:55 PM] Kanoka x かのか: (you'll under stand why later xD)
[11:45:17 PM] Kanoka x かのか: lesson 4: Asking Questions
[11:45:28 PM] Cait Berry: okee.
Number 1 student.
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